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'A lot of tragic deaths have occurred since Zahid Hamidi became home
minister. I wonder what changes in policies or SOPs have taken place.'
Karuna, third custodial death victim in 11 days
LittleGiant: It
is simply disgusting. Are the lives of Indians in this country so cheap
and worthless that at least one Indian should die in a police lock-up
every other day? And where is P Waythamoorthy, the so-called leader of
Persatuan Hindraf Malaysia and 'instant' deputy minister?
What is wrong if the Indian community is of the opinion that Waythamoorthy had deliberately taken out the human rights demand from his so-called 'deal' with BN because he knew that he would not have the guts or conviction to take the BN government to task for custodial deaths?
If Waythamoorthy has any shame, he should quit his deputy minster's post straight away and ask the Indian community to forgive him.
Toonarmy: A lot of tragic deaths have occurred since Ahmad Zahid Hamidi became the home minister.
I wonder what changes in policies or standard operating procedures (SOPs) have taken place that have cost more Malaysian lives to be lost. Police custody sounds more like a death sentence these days. PDRM has completely lost the trust of Malaysians.
Odin: In 2012, nine died in police custody. So far this year, eight have died - the last three in the past two weeks. These are Indians. The inspector-general of police (IGP), home minister and PM Najib Razak wouldn't bother to do anything to address the injustice.
But why would they, when the Indian leaders themselves have not objected to the deaths? What has the MIC done?
As for Waytha, he only asked for the four police officers involved in N Dhamendran's murder to be suspended. Is suspension the appropriate thing to do in this case?
Waytha is in the foul-smelling, rats-infested kitchen cabinet. As he is so, what else or how much would he do? If he says too much, he'll get kicked out.
The cushy position he is in and the money that comes his way every month are too good to give up, aren't they? It is up to the ordinary Indians to address the issue - and to do so in a manner that cannot be ignored.
Demokrasi: Why is it that when a person dies in lock-up they take it easy? In this country, laws are not followed - if there is a murder case it needs to charge in court, but for suspects who are police officers they are given desk jobs.
Bamboo: Whether a criminal suspect or otherwise, no one is supposed to die in police lock-ups. The Independent Police Misconduct and Complaints Commission (IPCMC) is badly needed.
Otherwise without a form of check and accountability, the police will continue to commit many offences against detainees like murder or rape as they like, and get away scot-free.
Quigonbond: Ahmad Zahid, you had better support setting up the IPCMC and get rid of the useless Enforcement Agency Integrity Commission (EAIC). Otherwise, blood is on your hands as the new home minister, and Malaysians won't let you forget this.
The police and you have given the force a really bad reputation that now Malaysians are not only refusing to go to Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) office, but also to the police station because you never know how you're going to end up.
Pahatian: Told you once and told you twice, the Indians in Malaysia are treated worse than animals. It is always a one-way ticket to the police station.
At least the animals have The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to protect them. Who do the Indians have, MIC? P Waythamoorthy?
Ren Ai: Our police should stop being judge, jury and executioner. N Dhamendran was alleged to have murdered three people. Meanwhile, P Karuna Nithi was allegedly a drunken bully.
It is easy to judge under these circumstances. But that should be done in the courtroom, not the lock-up, and not by the interrogators.
Cala: When there is little law and order under which any social conflict could be settled, then we say the society has re-entered the age of tribalism.
The reason for the problem is that Malaysian society is sick: a legacy of former PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad. To put the blame squarely on individual police officers for their "murderous acts" on poor Indians reveals only half the truth of these unaccountable deaths.
We need to look beyond the police officers. How are the Indians coping with the marginalisation and disenfranchisement of the state-sanctioned acts of discrimination? What are these discriminatory policies?
Does mutual respect exist amongst various ethnic groups? Thus, in the hours of sorrow over yet another custodial death, let us reflect on why Indians are killed in the lock-up.
Dahkenakorek: This is a totally disgraceful treatment of a human being and a Malaysian citizen. And all the home minister is worried about is demoralising the police force.
Anak, Bangsa, Malaysia: "Demoralising the police force", my foot. The rakyat are the ones who are now demoralised.
Abasir: Malaysiakini, please don't demoralise our very sensitive Royal Malaysian Police (PDRM) by publishing these reports of Indians getting killed in police stations.
Never mind the Indians who, by now, should be used to organising funerals for their battered, bloodied and brutalised kin.
But our police officers are ultra-sensitive and should be managed in a very delicate manner. When they murder Indians, just give them desk duties during which time they can destroy all the evidence of their bloody deeds and find a little Indian cop to take the rap.
Anyone But BN: Another one killed - I am getting the impression that more die in police stations than in the streets.
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Karuna, third custodial death victim in 11 days
LittleGiant: It
is simply disgusting. Are the lives of Indians in this country so cheap
and worthless that at least one Indian should die in a police lock-up
every other day? And where is P Waythamoorthy, the so-called leader of
Persatuan Hindraf Malaysia and 'instant' deputy minister?What is wrong if the Indian community is of the opinion that Waythamoorthy had deliberately taken out the human rights demand from his so-called 'deal' with BN because he knew that he would not have the guts or conviction to take the BN government to task for custodial deaths?
If Waythamoorthy has any shame, he should quit his deputy minster's post straight away and ask the Indian community to forgive him.
Toonarmy: A lot of tragic deaths have occurred since Ahmad Zahid Hamidi became the home minister.
I wonder what changes in policies or standard operating procedures (SOPs) have taken place that have cost more Malaysian lives to be lost. Police custody sounds more like a death sentence these days. PDRM has completely lost the trust of Malaysians.
Odin: In 2012, nine died in police custody. So far this year, eight have died - the last three in the past two weeks. These are Indians. The inspector-general of police (IGP), home minister and PM Najib Razak wouldn't bother to do anything to address the injustice.
But why would they, when the Indian leaders themselves have not objected to the deaths? What has the MIC done?
As for Waytha, he only asked for the four police officers involved in N Dhamendran's murder to be suspended. Is suspension the appropriate thing to do in this case?
Waytha is in the foul-smelling, rats-infested kitchen cabinet. As he is so, what else or how much would he do? If he says too much, he'll get kicked out.
The cushy position he is in and the money that comes his way every month are too good to give up, aren't they? It is up to the ordinary Indians to address the issue - and to do so in a manner that cannot be ignored.
Demokrasi: Why is it that when a person dies in lock-up they take it easy? In this country, laws are not followed - if there is a murder case it needs to charge in court, but for suspects who are police officers they are given desk jobs.
Bamboo: Whether a criminal suspect or otherwise, no one is supposed to die in police lock-ups. The Independent Police Misconduct and Complaints Commission (IPCMC) is badly needed.
Otherwise without a form of check and accountability, the police will continue to commit many offences against detainees like murder or rape as they like, and get away scot-free.
Quigonbond: Ahmad Zahid, you had better support setting up the IPCMC and get rid of the useless Enforcement Agency Integrity Commission (EAIC). Otherwise, blood is on your hands as the new home minister, and Malaysians won't let you forget this.
The police and you have given the force a really bad reputation that now Malaysians are not only refusing to go to Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) office, but also to the police station because you never know how you're going to end up.
Pahatian: Told you once and told you twice, the Indians in Malaysia are treated worse than animals. It is always a one-way ticket to the police station.
At least the animals have The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to protect them. Who do the Indians have, MIC? P Waythamoorthy?
Ren Ai: Our police should stop being judge, jury and executioner. N Dhamendran was alleged to have murdered three people. Meanwhile, P Karuna Nithi was allegedly a drunken bully.
It is easy to judge under these circumstances. But that should be done in the courtroom, not the lock-up, and not by the interrogators.
Cala: When there is little law and order under which any social conflict could be settled, then we say the society has re-entered the age of tribalism.
The reason for the problem is that Malaysian society is sick: a legacy of former PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad. To put the blame squarely on individual police officers for their "murderous acts" on poor Indians reveals only half the truth of these unaccountable deaths.
We need to look beyond the police officers. How are the Indians coping with the marginalisation and disenfranchisement of the state-sanctioned acts of discrimination? What are these discriminatory policies?
Does mutual respect exist amongst various ethnic groups? Thus, in the hours of sorrow over yet another custodial death, let us reflect on why Indians are killed in the lock-up.
Dahkenakorek: This is a totally disgraceful treatment of a human being and a Malaysian citizen. And all the home minister is worried about is demoralising the police force.
Anak, Bangsa, Malaysia: "Demoralising the police force", my foot. The rakyat are the ones who are now demoralised.
Abasir: Malaysiakini, please don't demoralise our very sensitive Royal Malaysian Police (PDRM) by publishing these reports of Indians getting killed in police stations.
Never mind the Indians who, by now, should be used to organising funerals for their battered, bloodied and brutalised kin.
But our police officers are ultra-sensitive and should be managed in a very delicate manner. When they murder Indians, just give them desk duties during which time they can destroy all the evidence of their bloody deeds and find a little Indian cop to take the rap.
Anyone But BN: Another one killed - I am getting the impression that more die in police stations than in the streets.
The above is a selection of comments posted by Malaysiakini subscribers. Only paying subscribers can post comments. Over the past one year, Malaysiakinians have posted over 100,000 comments. Join the Malaysiakini community and help set the news agenda. Subscribe now.
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